You reap what you sow. There is no cause without effect. You make your bed and lie in it. So on and so forth into the silver age of philosophical pandering. Blech.
I don't think karma works quite like how most people believe it does. There's free will to consider, evolution of character, and even divine providence. It's never just one thing determining life's innards.
Karma may have stood for something once, but now it just hangs around for philosophy majors to bandy about in absolute tripe papers.
I think something works, but I don't know if it is Karma... I truly believe that what you spend your time focusing on will come to you in some manner. What you spend your energy thinking about tends to manifest. If this is Karma, then I guess so. I do tend to think of it more as law of attraction though.
A friend of mine has an interesting take on the concept of Karma though. If you do not grasp and integrate a Lesson, then you will get opportunities to understand that Lesson from other perspectives. Say for example that you struggle with saying no when you are overbooked or overworked. Then there will come a time when someone will say yes to you when they are not able to give it their full attention...quality of work may suffer or your request may put a severe strain on the relationship. Then you may get the chance to be the person on the receiving end of that task that is causing that overburden for someone. And so on. Until you finally grasp the Lesson and make the change in your life.
I don't think karma "works"; I think that karma simply "is". I think I get glimpses of how turiya and moksha function from time to time, which is pretty cool.
I don't think that the general Western misconception of what karma is works at all (do something bad and bad things will happen to you, and all variations therein), but one of the best lines I ever heard about karma was in the movie "The Way of The Gun":
Hale Chidduck: Do you believe in karma? Joe Sarno: Karma's justice without the satisfaction.
Hmm... No. Not really. I do believe in a sort of short-term what comes around goes around effect, but for me this does not translate into a global belief in a just world. I do recognize, for instance, that good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. And no, I don't believe in karma as an over-arching mystical drive to "get it right" eventually.
Nice thought though, karma is. Keeps one on the straight and narrow, by and large, just in case... ;)
yes... but I'm uncertain as to whether it works because of the spiritual sense of karma, or because people who do negative things often make the kinds of choices that bring them unhappiness and likewise people who do positive things tend to make choices that bring happiness.
i believe in it. unfortunately, i dont know if i believe in it because i dont have a religion, or because i actually know it exists. but yeah, karma has acted a few times in my life, so i try to be careful with the things i do. but theeeeeen, karma is such a depressing thing!! it's horrible having to watch your every move because you're afraid something bad is going to happen! oh no, i dont want to believe in karma, oh no.
I don't know. I think I'd like to, but there's no way I can know for sure, since I can't see the end of all situations of justice. I can never know whether someone "got what they deserved", because I can't know where that person goes, or what is meant by "deserving" something, since that seems really subjective. I think in this culture (Western), the idea of karma is spoken of in pretty concrete terms; that is, if say, a criminal gets away without being convicted, then there "is no karma". I don't know if it's that simple.
i think people need to stop worrying about things like karma and focus on taking responsibility for their actions. not aiming that at you, just a thought i've been having recently. people are always looking to god, or jesus, or rehab, or some other "higher power" to help them figure out that 1) you make decisions, and 2) you must live with the consequences of said decisions. in a nutshell.
I believe that the choices you make reflect on who and what you are as a person. If you make the wrong choice or do something you know is wrong then eventually it is going to come back and haunt you. Not in the way of the law perhaps but maybe in some other way.
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Date: 2007-11-26 11:34 am (UTC)Some days, you think it's MIA. Then, some days, you can feel it full-force.
Well, life moves in mysterious ways.
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Date: 2007-11-26 12:46 pm (UTC)I don't think karma works quite like how most people believe it does. There's free will to consider, evolution of character, and even divine providence. It's never just one thing determining life's innards.
Karma may have stood for something once, but now it just hangs around for philosophy majors to bandy about in absolute tripe papers.
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Date: 2007-11-26 12:51 pm (UTC)As a mystical force? No.
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Date: 2007-11-26 01:25 pm (UTC)A friend of mine has an interesting take on the concept of Karma though. If you do not grasp and integrate a Lesson, then you will get opportunities to understand that Lesson from other perspectives. Say for example that you struggle with saying no when you are overbooked or overworked. Then there will come a time when someone will say yes to you when they are not able to give it their full attention...quality of work may suffer or your request may put a severe strain on the relationship. Then you may get the chance to be the person on the receiving end of that task that is causing that overburden for someone. And so on. Until you finally grasp the Lesson and make the change in your life.
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Date: 2007-11-26 01:25 pm (UTC)I don't think that the general Western misconception of what karma is works at all (do something bad and bad things will happen to you, and all variations therein), but one of the best lines I ever heard about karma was in the movie "The Way of The Gun":
Hale Chidduck: Do you believe in karma?
Joe Sarno: Karma's justice without the satisfaction.
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Date: 2007-11-26 01:25 pm (UTC)Nice thought though, karma is. Keeps one on the straight and narrow, by and large, just in case... ;)
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Date: 2007-11-26 02:01 pm (UTC)You are the king.
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