Ok folks... Opinions please...

[ayoub]

And sorry, but it's politics again...

A friend of mine posted this image:



And I was struck by it because to me, the Empire and the death star was always a right wing symbol, and a very left wing symbol superimposed on it made me laugh...

But the person who posted it seemed to think that the Empire and the Death Star embodied liberalism.

So I'm going to put this to the vote, to see what others think:

[Poll #1292525]

Have at it!

Oh, and I might have to make this image into an icon... It's way too amusing not to!

Comments

[uawildcatgrl.livejournal.com]

Ya need to have an "I'm not nerdy enough" option! ;P

[mac-arthur-park.livejournal.com]

Gck! Hit the wrong button!

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

LMAO!

Come on... Who's not nerdy enough for Star Wars?

;)

[uawildcatgrl.livejournal.com]

ME!!! (I don't even know which ones are the good guys...I'm certain Jeff just had a nightmare over that statement!) ;P

And um correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the death star blow up planets...(so I'd take it to mean that Obama is going to blow up the planet?) I dunno...I'm so not a star wars nerd!

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

You can change your vote by going here :D

[uawildcatgrl.livejournal.com]

You can change it...just click on the poll number on the top then "fill out poll" and change you answer.

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

Yup, the death star blew up planets, hence the amusement... Obama's against war!

[sabatoa.livejournal.com]

Let me state my argument that the Empire is Liberalism and the Resistence is Conservatism.

Liberalism as an ideal sounds emancipating but in the context of Government, it is often all encompassing and at times can be intrusive into the lives of everyday denizens.

True conservatism lessens the impact of the Government on the lives of the people. My actual political stance isn't conservative, contrary to popular opinion. I'm actually a Libertarian. I want the Government out of my life completely with the exception of military protection.

[fragbert.livejournal.com]

Ok, this is just amazing to me. How could ANYONE think that the Empire was leftist?

1. The Empire supports slavery.
2. The Empire systematically destroys all opposition to it without rule of law or diplomatic precedures.
3. The Empire is a militaristic dictatorship that seeks to suppress culture, individualism, and personal freedoms.
4. The Empire has no Bill Of Rights to protect its citizens.
5. The Empire has subjects, not citizens.

Trust me, I have role-played an Imperial character in the Star Wars MMO for over three years. We own the galaxy. We own YOU.

[alainn-mactire.livejournal.com]

LOL

Ok...Star Wars oversimplified :

Empire = Darth Vader's side
Resistance = Luke, Princess Leia, Yoda

And yes, I seem to remember that the death star did like blowing things up...

[uawildcatgrl.livejournal.com]

Woot! I got a Star Wars something right! Now...which are the people that lived on the death star?! ;P

[phigmentor.livejournal.com]

The Empire was based on Communism/Marxism. Decidedly left, dearest.

To be fair though--- I am an unusually well researched Star Wars Geek. I think the connotation of the Death Star is one of extreme oppression, and therefore a negative connotation- not political sway...

[uawildcatgrl.livejournal.com]

Hahaha thank you so much!

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

You're confusing liberalism with socialism, or worse, communism.

Liberalism is, and I quote:

a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

[phigmentor.livejournal.com]

I know I don't know you or anything but--

I don't even know which ones are the good guys
I think I just had a wee heart attack...

lol!

[shamrocks-13.livejournal.com]

Forget nerdy enough, how about smart enough? I have no clue what left wing and right wing even MEAN.

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

The empire oversaw increased trade and capitalism, though, just look at the rise of Coruscant, and the wealth of the supported organisations throughout. It was militant capitalism, where the rich got richer, the army was all there was, and the poor remained poor...

[mattg.livejournal.com]

[uawildcatgrl.livejournal.com]

Hahaha...that I get...right wing are conservatives as in Republicans...and left wing are liberals as in Democrats (generally speaking!)

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

Exactly!

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

LMAO!

[innerly.livejournal.com]

can you make this public? i have a friend who i'm sure would enjoy this poll and comments

[hippie-geisha.livejournal.com]

I am really ashamed to admit this....but I fell asleep during "Return of the Jedi" in the theater! Carl was not pleased with me....LOL!!!

[cmerun12.livejournal.com]

Ya just had to stir up trouble, didn't ya?

[sabatoa.livejournal.com]

"You're confusing liberalism with socialism, or worse, communism."

Not hard my friend. They sleep in the same bed.