Stanley "Tookie" Williams..
Dec. 13th, 2005 11:22 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ayoubIs dead.
Killed for crimes he was convicted of.
Did he commit those crimes? Maybe, maybe not, but he did, as a gangster, do a lot, and none of it good.
Did he deserve to die? I'm not the judge, God is.
There is a theory within Islam, which states that those who suffer on this earth, are saved from suffering in the hereafter. The suffering on this world is your atonement, so that you can approach heaven with a clean soul. This is not to say that all murderers who are given the death sentence will be forgiven, because not all will ask for absolution sincerely. There are no absolutes in life.
The problem with having a death penalty, twinned with an imperfect justice system, is that innocent people will be killed. Therefore, until the justice system is perfect, there should be no death penalty.
The last time I discussed this, though, my views were called into question, specifically, this one:
No one can kill another, except in self-defense, and be an Anarchist, because that would be invading another's equal right to live - the antithesis of Anarchism.
Joseph A. Labadie's quote on my bio.
Let me explain (No, is too much, let me sum up ;)), Sentencing an unrepentant killer to death is self-defence, because if he or she is not willing to repent and reform, then that person WILL kill again.
But how can you be sure? In some cases, there is no doubt. People who kill hundreds, or even thousands, and then stand in a court, defiant, and defending themselves regardless of the validity of the court, will not repent, and should die, not as a penance, but as a removal of a risk from society. I can say this, and have it fit with my views to the letter and in perfection.
In the case of Tookie, though, as long as there is doubt, and with proof of repentance as he has shown, suffice it to say he was no longer a risk, so therefore, he should not have been killed.
I do hope I have explained my views accurately, and questions are, as always, welcome.
Killed for crimes he was convicted of.
Did he commit those crimes? Maybe, maybe not, but he did, as a gangster, do a lot, and none of it good.
Did he deserve to die? I'm not the judge, God is.
There is a theory within Islam, which states that those who suffer on this earth, are saved from suffering in the hereafter. The suffering on this world is your atonement, so that you can approach heaven with a clean soul. This is not to say that all murderers who are given the death sentence will be forgiven, because not all will ask for absolution sincerely. There are no absolutes in life.
The problem with having a death penalty, twinned with an imperfect justice system, is that innocent people will be killed. Therefore, until the justice system is perfect, there should be no death penalty.
The last time I discussed this, though, my views were called into question, specifically, this one:
No one can kill another, except in self-defense, and be an Anarchist, because that would be invading another's equal right to live - the antithesis of Anarchism.
Joseph A. Labadie's quote on my bio.
Let me explain (No, is too much, let me sum up ;)), Sentencing an unrepentant killer to death is self-defence, because if he or she is not willing to repent and reform, then that person WILL kill again.
But how can you be sure? In some cases, there is no doubt. People who kill hundreds, or even thousands, and then stand in a court, defiant, and defending themselves regardless of the validity of the court, will not repent, and should die, not as a penance, but as a removal of a risk from society. I can say this, and have it fit with my views to the letter and in perfection.
In the case of Tookie, though, as long as there is doubt, and with proof of repentance as he has shown, suffice it to say he was no longer a risk, so therefore, he should not have been killed.
I do hope I have explained my views accurately, and questions are, as always, welcome.
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