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[ayoub]

British troops die in Basra crash

Now, just a message to Tony Blair.

The Iraqis cheered and celebrated when the helicopter crashed.

So let me get this straight, our boys are there, "helping" these people, and they applaud when our boys die.

Get our boys out of there and let them fucking kill each other.

Comments

[ex-nothingto835.livejournal.com]

hear hear- i agree with every word

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

It's just a sad, sickening situation that gets worse daily.

[fayruz.livejournal.com]

“Get our boys out of there and let them fucking kill each other”.


How can you say something so completely unfair?

With respect, your boys are not there “helping” these people, they’re there because their governments have spent the last 40 years or so raping Iraq of it’s resources and trying to fight first communism and now terrorism on behalf of the whole world on Iraqi soil. 40 years ago, religion was never an issue in Iraq. Millions of Iraqis practiced dozens of different religions including Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and many other smaller less known religions in peace and religious extremism or bigotry against other religions were virtually unheard of. Western governments and the American and British ones in particular were so scared of the threat of communism that they deliberately encouraged and trained and financed extremist religious movements, including Osama Bin Laden and Al Queida to stop the threat of communism and now we are all paying for it.

Saddam Hussein was helped into power by our governments here in the west and he was financed and armed and kept in power and everyone knew exactly what he was doing to his own people but the world turned a blind eye because it wasn’t affecting them yet. When Saddam Hussein dropped chemical bombs over the Kurds and wiped out thousands of people in an instant, the rest of the world watched and did nothing. Even now, they still don’t feel any shame for their part in it. How many movies and museums and documentaries have been made about the Holocaust? Why are there none about what was done to the Kurds? Because the rest of the world still considers the Middle East subhuman and doesn’t really give a shit.

Now that the regimes and religious movements that our western governments created have become too much to handle, they’ve decided to get rid of them, and they’ve decided to fight all these wars in Iraq, away from their own countries. You might not agree with this war, but the fact is, it happened. The Iraqi population didn’t have a choice when Saddam was helped into power. They didn’t have a choice for the last 30 years that he’s been systematically torturing and abusing them. They didn’t have a choice when America and Britain invaded their country. They didn’t have a choice when the aftermath of the war was spectacularly bungled up and the coalition troops failed to guard the borders and allowed every gun toting religious extremist from all the surrounding countries to wander in so that they could reap their havoc. And they don’t have a choice about the bombings and explosions still going on now.

The troops might just be following orders and not personally responsible for the greed and incompetence of their governments but at least they chose to join the army and they knew that that could involve active duty. The Iraqis suffering the consequences of this war don’t have any choice.

So how can you say “get our boys out of there”? Do you think it’s right that the troops went in, created havoc, brought the country to the brink of civil war and now they should leave without fixing their mess? Leaving the ordinary Iraqi citizen to suffer the consequences. As usual.

On a personal note, I find “let them fucking kill each other” really upsetting because these are my grandparents and relatives you’re talking about. The vast majority of the people doing the bombing are people who have come over from neighbouring countries and even the Iraqis among them are a tiny blip who are certainly not representative of the rest of the population any more than the men responsible for September 11th of July 7th are representative of you just because you’re Muslim.

I know it’s frustrating for you to see these constant bombings and human fatalities in the news; it’s frustrating for me too and it makes me furious. But removing the troops now and leaving Iraq to its own devices after the troops put it into this situation in the first place is so unfair it would be criminal.

I’m sorry this is long, but I really found that statement offensive on a deeply personal level.

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

I know... and considering your family there, I agree it was thoughtless, and I apologise...

But people cheering when a helicopter crashes is equally thoughtless.

I agree, it's bloody frustrating.

[fayruz.livejournal.com]

I know, it's more than thoughtless, it's cruel and inexcusable, but unfortuantely you're going to find people like that in every society in every country in the world, just like there are murderers and rapists in every society in the world and you can't punish or hate a whole population because of the actions of a minority of them.

Thanks