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When do the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many?

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Date: 2006-08-02 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmerun12.livejournal.com
When you, or someone you love, is one of the 'few'.

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Date: 2006-08-02 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-rontor.livejournal.com
When the few are clever enough to outwit, charm or rally to force against the many. When the many let it happen.

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Date: 2006-08-02 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shafuq.livejournal.com
When the few have bigger guns?

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Date: 2006-08-02 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanchey.livejournal.com
When the "needs" of the few are frivilous and usually attribute or are the cuase of the needs of the many.

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Date: 2006-08-02 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-dawn.livejournal.com
when selfishness is in the middle, and usually its when the power is in those hands (politicians for example)

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Date: 2006-08-02 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosta-pasta.livejournal.com
unfortunately mosttly when the few have more power/money/weapons... or...in a better case, more knowledges...

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Date: 2006-08-02 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warrior-olight.livejournal.com
Never according to Mr. Spock.

I can see times when it should take effect.

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Date: 2006-08-02 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avis-noctis.livejournal.com
They don't.

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-bard.livejournal.com
Only after/i> Spock irradiates himself. ^__~

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-bard.livejournal.com
And I should only be allowed to code after I have my daily coffee!!!

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowshape.livejournal.com
they don't
xxxx

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancymccoydfw.livejournal.com
Spock says it ain't. :-}

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yes indeed...

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
When the many let it happen
Indeed!

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
LOL!

Very good point though :)

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Interesting...

What kinds of needs are you thinking of?

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yes... The needs of the leaders often outweight the needs of the people...

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yes, that's too often the case...

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I knew someone would bring up the Trekkie reference :D

Yes, especially when loved ones are concerned...

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
LOL! :D

Gotta love Trek wisdom though :)

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Even when it's the need of a loved one?

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Even when a loved one is in danger?

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Cap'n Kirk thought differently though :)

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Date: 2006-08-02 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriyasterling.livejournal.com
It depends on relation to what we're talking about. If it's something like finance and livelyhood of some versus socialized healthcare than I'd say screw the doctors and their salaries socialized healthcare all the way... The flip side of that is Canada has a harder time educating and keeping doctors because their potential to earn money is curtailed.

The needs would dictate what type of answer I were to give you.

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Date: 2006-08-02 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Hence the open nature of the question...

I like all points of view... and yours is a great one :)

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Date: 2006-08-02 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crescent-fresh.livejournal.com
never. the greater good always comes before the self.

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Date: 2006-08-02 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-rontor.livejournal.com
With respect, serving only the greater good ultimately only deminishes the self. Would you possibly consider that a balance between the needs of the many and the few might be the healthiest option?

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Date: 2006-08-02 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crescent-fresh.livejournal.com
as far as actual needs go, the many always outweighs the few. wants, desires, and the like are an individual thing and can be justified or rationalized however one would like. but as far as needs, many always holds the trump.

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Date: 2006-08-02 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
So you'd sacrifice your life for the greater good?

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Date: 2006-08-02 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crescent-fresh.livejournal.com
why not? i'm just a guy.

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Date: 2006-08-02 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
You're more liberal than I am!

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Date: 2006-08-02 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] childeofloki.livejournal.com
When the few are your few, and the many are enemies.

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Date: 2006-08-02 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
The only time that it makes sense to me :)

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Date: 2006-08-02 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] childeofloki.livejournal.com
I'm glad we finally agree on something.
*grins*

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Date: 2006-08-02 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crescent-fresh.livejournal.com
i'm not saying i'd be thrilled to do it or anything, but you know, fate of the world and such. although, at the rate i'm going in my ever-increasing hatred of people, i may just change my mind on the subject within the next ten years.

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Date: 2006-08-02 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reynold.livejournal.com
When the few are family.

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Date: 2006-08-03 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avis-noctis.livejournal.com
Maybe from my personal viewpoint. But you cannot use that as a general principle.

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Date: 2006-08-03 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yes, definitely...

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Date: 2006-08-03 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
When most people agree on it, then it becomes a general principle :)

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Date: 2006-08-03 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-rontor.livejournal.com
And yet there are exceptions. How often have people colluded for surprise parties because someone who's good is feeling low? How often have people gathered and shelled out for bachelor parties because the groom to be needs a boost in his confidence? How often has the hat been passed around because someone's had a loss in their life? What about when hundreds of people from all over a nation rally around a child who's trapped in a well? Many or few, I think all things must be looked at case by case. Neither the many nor the few do not nor will not ever hold the monopoly on need.

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Date: 2006-08-25 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornjkitty.livejournal.com
When the needs of the few are for bread or water and the "needs" of the many are for new sportscars.

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