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Date: 2008-01-17 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Of course :D

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:16 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-01-17 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thermalsatsuma.livejournal.com
Do you really need to ask? :-)

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

True :D

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Date: 2008-01-17 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alainn-mactire.livejournal.com
Both. Faith has logic.
(Ok, admittedly, not everyone's faith has logic, but...)

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Glad you put that caveat in ;)

:D

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Date: 2008-01-17 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorah.livejournal.com
Oy. A tough question. I'm going to say that my faith is based on logic.

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Intriguing... I can only accept a faith that fits with my logic :)

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Date: 2008-01-17 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seegwa.livejournal.com
Logic wins out most of the time... Fortunately, my faith is very logical, so when I do rely on faith, it's not to the exclusion of all my reason. ;)

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
One day, we should talk about faith :D

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Date: 2008-01-17 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brenda-in-sepia.livejournal.com
I don't think the two are in opposition.

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Maybe I've met too many people who use their faith to abandon logic...

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Date: 2008-01-17 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dishapeaches.livejournal.com
Logic. Without a doubt.

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

Me too!

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Date: 2008-01-17 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanda.livejournal.com
Logic, yep.

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yep :D

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yep :)

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Date: 2008-01-17 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poetbear.livejournal.com
logic and faith are two sides
of the same coin. one does
not exist without the other.!~paul

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Date: 2008-01-17 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-ravyn.livejournal.com
I couldn't have said this better myself.  I agree.

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Date: 2008-01-17 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smwright.livejournal.com
Uh... logic.

And this is a nice illustration of the Principle of Similarity.

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

Thank you... It's fun when I illustrate principles I've never heard of ;)

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Date: 2008-01-17 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uawildcatgrl.livejournal.com
We have to choose...is there a rule that says you're not allowed to be logical AND have faith?

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I've met a fair few people who have faith, but don't follow logic, though :D

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Date: 2008-01-17 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-bard.livejournal.com
Both. I prefer to base my faith on logical and natural principles.

Faith need not be blind... only Mistress Justice. That's why She can only see in the dark. ^__~

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Now that's how I see my own answer to this question... Faith based on logical and natural principles :D

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Date: 2008-01-17 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnickcottage.livejournal.com
I don't take a side so I don't alienate the other. Not that I give a crap about pleasing people, but only so that I might stand as a mediator... because someone needs to do it.

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
You'd make a great mediator though :D

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Date: 2008-01-17 06:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meredevachon
Both. They aren't mutually exclusive. Logic makes a firm foundation for faith, and at some level, logic requires faith, even if it's at the level of finding the justification for "knowing" the things you "know".

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I think that yes, for a sensible person, that's true, but there are too many zealots out there...

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Date: 2008-01-17 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-rontor.livejournal.com
Both. I'll not exclude either as I use what options I can muster when I need to. As I see it, faith is based on really fuzzy soupçon of logic, and logic starts with faith in one's ability to reason.

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Date: 2008-01-17 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Nice... :D

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Date: 2008-01-17 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empatia.livejournal.com
I believe if you have the right faith you should be able to back it up with logic.

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Date: 2008-01-17 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

Good answer :)

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Date: 2008-01-18 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heardthatnoise.livejournal.com
Seeing the things I've seen in the last 4 years, I have to say...both.

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Date: 2008-01-18 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] childeofloki.livejournal.com
Neither. Much of logic is based on faith in logic. Faith without logic is a fool's path. Logic without faith is near to impossible (you have to have faith that the predetermined answers in your logical equation have been proven true, or you will spend your entire life answering questions that have already been answered to reach just one simple conclusion, that you will likely never get to for shear dint of items on the list you have to prove before proving the next).

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Date: 2008-01-18 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chiropteraclan.livejournal.com
I'm pretty much in the middle, sometimes leaning more to one side or the other, depending on a lot of factors. How is that for vague?

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Date: 2008-01-18 02:52 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-01-18 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katamphigorical.livejournal.com
I have faith in logic.

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Date: 2008-01-18 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mishi-ragdoll.livejournal.com
FAITH ALL THE WAY
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