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Date: 2008-09-01 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louenn.livejournal.com
I wouldn't say that all of them were.

But a lot of them are, sadly.

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Date: 2008-09-01 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
My mum used to be a politician... :D

And I still say it (to her as well!) ;)

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Date: 2008-09-01 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonickname96.livejournal.com
I was about to write exactly this. So, ditto!

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Date: 2008-09-01 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharkbait.livejournal.com
Sadly, its spread across the whole spectrum of politicians, not just the ones individual voters dont like.

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Date: 2008-09-01 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yes...

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Date: 2008-09-01 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geordielass.livejournal.com
Hence the reason I never discuss them either.

They also lie through their freaking teeth, promising this and that, then never following through with it.

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Date: 2008-09-01 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yup...

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Date: 2008-09-01 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnickcottage.livejournal.com
I wonder what it is he thought they should be doing exactly, sticking their fingers in a dike? Someone smiled while someone else in the world was sad? Oh what tragedy. I'm sure Saint Obama was somewhere conferring with God in an attempt to move the next storm out to sea.

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Date: 2008-09-01 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clemidia.livejournal.com
I wonder what it is he thought they should be doing exactly, sticking their fingers in a dike? Someone smiled while someone else in the world was sad?

AfuckingMEN.

Yet, still the idiots who live there are "riding it out." Yeah, until they expect--no, make that DEMAND--that someone pick them up by helicopter, free of charge, from their roofs! Oh, then house and feed them and get them new schools, jobs and a free ride indefinitely.

I am not an uncompassionate person by any measure, but since when is it politicians' JOB to stop natural disasters and give people a free ride forever?

What did we do BEFORE 2005 when storms hit? And what in hell did they do in LA when anything went wrong and someone wasn't there with free housing and food and clothes and money? When you build a house in the middle of railroad tracks, expect a train wreck.

This dole has to stop. The attitude of entitlement is beyond belief, and is going to a perpetually unappreciative audience that will whine for eternity regardless of what is done for them. This is the old welfare lament so prevalent in the U.S. for more than half a century.

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Date: 2008-09-01 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
If it was my country we were talking about, I would expect the leadership to be discussing the problems and possible solutions.

If it were my country, I'd expect the leadership to show some signs of caring that a major city is being torn apart.

*shrugs*

But it's not my country.

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Date: 2008-09-01 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clemidia.livejournal.com
Leadership, and its delgates, often meet to discuss issues that are never portrayed accurately in the news. By the same token, some geographical areas should not even be inhabited by humankind, as time is proving with some areas of our country.

The thing you must recognize it that for DECADES entitlement by assorted residents (not all even citizens, mind you) has gone on in various stages of rampant demands. Hiding behind natural disasters to create some form of legitimacy for said entitlement is unconscienable, yet it has become the new trend.

Leadership is structured in such a way that the top people put those in charge who are expected to watch and respond to the various situations within their scope of authority. That exists in as small a scope as school superintendent delegating jobs to department heads, school boards to superintendents, voters to board members, and so on.

The truth of politics is that by the time any candidate has reached their level of ascension, they have sold their souls so many times, they are for all intents and purposes, impotent on a grand scale. Therefore, responsibilities fall to their delegations; any lackluster representatives, such as the former "Brownie from FEMA" are, of course, magnified during a large-scale problem.

I have lived this scenario many times; I, too, was married to a former politician. There is much that goes on behind the scenes that is very different from how the media chooses to portray issues--and I say that from equal knowledge as a member of that media, too.

And, I predict that such form is common in any relatively free country. Only because I have lived it, dealt with the realities from both sides, and can't keep my mouth shut when I hear what amounts to mere rhetorical rants.

Sorry if this offends your sensibilities, Ayoub, but you knwo I can't shut up when I hear what amounts to political BS. LOL.

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Date: 2008-09-02 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

You've definitely not offended my sensibilities... :D

Love you!

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Date: 2008-09-03 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clemidia.livejournal.com
LOL--see what discriminating great taste you have?

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Date: 2008-09-03 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

LMAO! :D

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Date: 2008-09-01 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
If it were my country that we were talking about here, I would expect the leader of it to be hard at work in times of crisis. If a natural disaster is happening, then help the people you are elected to lead.

It's the honourable thing to do.

Although... sticking their fingers in a dike? LMAO!
Edited Date: 2008-09-01 10:26 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-09-01 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnickcottage.livejournal.com
My bet is that the storm hadn't even reached land when the picture was taken, and I'd have to guess that since Bush wasn't going to drive a bread truck to Louisiana, he'd already delegated what he could and took 15 minutes for cake and photos. If we have to stop all life whenever a natural disaster occurs, we'd better all roll over and play dead, cuz there's one happening somewhere every day. As far as honor, there's little of it in disguising a hatred for Bush and McCain under cheesecloth concern, which is what I think the original post was about. If someone wants to hate them, I'm all for it, freedom of speech and all. I just wish they'd come out and say it outright instead of hiding behind a tragedy, the extent of which, if anything beyond the norm, is not yet known.

Just giving you more ammo to keep politics in the background lol. This is why I stopped.

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Date: 2008-09-02 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

It's also why I stopped... Curse my moments of weakness!

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Date: 2008-09-01 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patchworld.livejournal.com
Today I've come across such a sentence "That counry was good for simple people, not for politicians." Most of them, at least in my country, think only about their own needs, that's very sad...

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Date: 2008-09-01 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
A good quote, that...

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Date: 2008-09-01 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ziyda.livejournal.com
Thanks.
It is a good idea to not get distracted from what is really occurring; while the glad-handing and show of concern is going on, on 'page one', some wicked money-based stuff continues to go on regarding Russia, Iran and on and on ...
A successful politician is an opportunist. I hesitate to tell the kiddies this ... each politician that gets elected becomes a betrayer. That is the nature of politics. I accept that, because that's how it really truly is. Public servants cannot always act in an idealistic form.
The Republicans in federal gov't in my country have taken too much away from those they are supposed to serve, in my [aware] opinion.
...
What I always ask is: Where's the money? and Where's Cheney?

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Date: 2008-09-01 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Follow the money... It often leads to a crime...

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Date: 2008-09-01 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yeah...

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Date: 2008-09-01 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4kudzu.livejournal.com
:| That's so sad.

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Date: 2008-09-02 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Indeed... :(

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Date: 2008-09-02 12:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mybeautifulwars
Sept. 17, 1999, Hurricane Floyd. I had 4 feet of water (literally) covering my property. I had to have an emergency evacuation of my horses, and I couldnt access my home for days. I was only 23 years old, and I was a home owner. I had to have a new well put in because the water from my original one was contaminated. My barn was destroyed. My home had damages I never imagined I'd have to deal with. But still, I didn't expect politicians to step in. What I DID expect was that my insurance company would. However, as most of us in NC have learned, floods aren't covered unless you specify & pay for it. None of us knew we weren't covered. We only we knew we paid homeowner's insurance.

To me, in my situation, the insurance I paid out my ass for all that time that didn't help me was the scam.

And although this doesn't necessarily reflect my voting preferences, I say Happy Birthday to John McCain. But to each his own. ;-)

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Date: 2008-09-02 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Definitely a scam... :(

;)

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Date: 2008-09-02 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-ravyn.livejournal.com
It doesn't frigging matter, really.

If they were doing what they were doing during Katrina, people would bitch.

But, they decided to take a page from the old addage "lesson learned, wisdom earned", and look what happened.  Posts like the one you cited pop up and what does it contain?  People bitching about what they're doing.

Please...politics is a damned if you, damned if you don't world.  Sure, they're hypocrites...but so are the people pointing their fingers at them ad nauseum no matter what they do.

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Date: 2008-09-02 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yup... It doesn't frigging matter...

And yes... Politicians are definitely damned whatever they do...

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bangdrum.livejournal.com
Don't start me on Bush, or John "I want to win so bad, I'm picking the most ridiculous woman ever, because women will vote for her since she's a woman, and men will vote for her cause she's a BABE, and it doesn't matter that she has nothing in common with Hillary AND no experience at anything but miniscule town governing, cause I'm gonna win!" McCain.

But whatever they were or weren't doing during Katrina isn't really the issue. It's what Bush didn't do BEFORE and AFTER, like make sure FEMA actually was prepared, actually followed through, didn't treat poor black people worse than rich white people, etc etc.

Most politicians are hypocrites, but the decent ones at least care about something once in a while. (And no, I'm not a "Saint Obama" type. Just a regular Democrat.)

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Date: 2008-09-02 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Nobody knows what either one will do, if elected...

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