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My dear friend [livejournal.com profile] ysabetwordsmith posted this link...

I believe that any charitable donation should be made by informed people... So if you're thinking of donating to them, get yourself informed.

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Date: 2008-11-16 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ziyda.livejournal.com
Gotcha ... thanks for passing this on.

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Date: 2008-11-17 07:04 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-11-16 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearls-song.livejournal.com
*nods*

I long ago stopped funding the Sallyanne and their discriminatory beliefs and policies (that name btw is what we called the Salvation Army as kids growing up - not sure if that is how one would spell it or not though *smile*)

I prefer to give to nondenominational charities, or at least those charities that make room in their political and religious agenda to welcome ALL people who are in need and not just the ones they feel are their Deity's chosen and preferred few.

Poverty and misfortune affect all people after all – not just those who shelter under the umbrella of Christianity…

Moonlight.

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Date: 2008-11-17 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yes, I prefer the same... It's wrong to discriminate when trying to help...

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Date: 2008-11-17 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hippie-geisha.livejournal.com
The Salvation Army bugs me....

We always do Toys for Tots. Personally, I have never believed that you need stuff to be happy (I could do without presents myself. I would rather sit and visit, and eat!),but little kids don't have my jaded view of the world yet...and every kid should have at least a couple of brand new things to open at Christmas.

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Date: 2008-11-17 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
They bug me too!

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Date: 2008-11-17 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louenn.livejournal.com
It is very difficult for any religious organisation to not become political.

However, the whole point of Christianity is that we are followers of Christ, who told us to love one another. Ok, yes, he did say to go out and tell the world, but the first commandment is love.

You're not going to convert people by arguing. You're not going to convert people by making them read the gospels. If a person wishes to convert someone else to Christianity, the best way of all to do it is to live your life correctly, that is, loving and respecting those around you and treating them as you would like to be treated, helping those in need and standing up for what is right.

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Date: 2008-11-17 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
What I don't understand why religious organisations find it so difficult to stay out of politics... To me, it's just a thirst for power among those leaders.

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Date: 2008-11-17 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louenn.livejournal.com
But if you want the world to be a fairer place, with the way the world is run right now, you have no choice but to get political about things.

Plus, politics is a way of life. Think about it. Any group you go to, you will get people politicking, about who is the favourite and what scandals are going on, and so on and so forth.

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Date: 2008-11-17 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alainn-mactire.livejournal.com
I believe that any charitable donation should be made by informed people... So if you're thinking of donating to them, get yourself informed.

On the basis of that statement, I must say that the Sally Army UK and the Sally Army USA could almost be considered completely different sects. The UK base is much less fundamentalist and to use the stereotype, much more about general charity with added tambourines.

I had a whole section of my family convert from Catholicism to Sally Army after my uncle died of cancer (including the sister of a very gay Quaker with a life partner) and I've seen some of the inner workings and how uninterested they were in the fact that the family had openly gay or bi relatives (myself included). Everyone was welcome without preaching, despite the fact that most organised religions do not accept homosexuality as anything other than a sin.

The Sally Army is not to my taste of worship, admittedly, but Fred Phelps they ain't.

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Date: 2008-11-17 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Well, over here, we're a lot more civilised ;)

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Date: 2008-11-17 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonickname96.livejournal.com
What was posted there is definitely NOT news to me. Honestly, while i do have problems with some of their methods, spreading what i believe to be truth (the gospel) isn't going to be a reason for me NOT to support an organization.

However, i do disagree with using the government to do it. (that would be the "methods" part).

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Date: 2008-11-17 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Indeed... Using the government to do it is the bit that bugs me the most...

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Date: 2008-11-18 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4kudzu.livejournal.com
Oh, how fun. :|

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Date: 2008-11-18 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Indeed...

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Date: 2008-11-24 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allyra.livejournal.com
Thank you for this. (Yes, I AM way behind on my LJ reading!) The Salvation Army is an organization best avoided. I confess to have gone as far as covering my ears and glaring at the bell-ringers. Well, that silly bell gives me a headache!!

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Date: 2008-11-24 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

Nothing wrong with being behind... I'm perpetually behind! :D

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