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[ayoub]

Torture, Bombs, and Iran calling for a withdrawal.

One man said he had been whipped with a cable and then had salt rubbed in the wound, while another said his captors had tried to pull out his toenails.

What kind of person does that to another human being?

The fact that both Bush and Blair have been through elections since this war started, and have survived despite all their lies, scheming, and warmongering, is evidence that either the democratic process doesn't work, or the majority want blood for blood's sake. If the latter is true, then I want to find a new planet.

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[ayoub.livejournal.com]

The war and the continued occupation of Iraq is wrong.

Saddam has been deposed, and that is a good thing, I'll agree, but he could have been gotten rid of a long time ago.

Saddam was funded and armed by the US throughout the Iran Iraq War. He comitted all of his atrocities with American technology, that was sold to him gleefully by the corporates in the US. They set him up, and then they tried to be heroes in bringing him down.

Ultimately, the entire thing is for money.

[fayruz.livejournal.com]

Apart from the first sentence, I agree 100% with the rest. I have no illusions about the purity of their motives for the war. Of course it's for money. They don't give a shit about the people who make up the nation.

But the fact is that he was in power for 20 odd years and and he was torturing and destroying his own people and the whole world was sitting back watching.

But for the people who are living in Iraq and were directly suffering under his rule, the war was a Godsend. They don't care what the motives were, they just wanted him gone and now he is. And because he's gone, because of the war, my father was able to go back and see his brothers and sisters who he hadn't seen for 30 years and countless other families were re-united and that would never have been able to happen if the war hadn't gotten rid of him.

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

That is a positive side that I overlook too often...

Although I'll never say that any war is good, I agree that the removal of Saddam has benefited Iraq.

What's your opinion of the Shi'ite - Sunni conflict there at the moment?

[fayruz.livejournal.com]

What you were saying in your post the other day - that it has sod-all to do with religion or faith and is just a power struggle between two groups who want to gain control and want to keep people brainwashed!

What's being done in the name of Muslims everywhere, including us, is just mind boggling!

[ayoub.livejournal.com]

I know... But can we get enough people to make a stand?