Drama

Dec. 15th, 2005 01:38 pm
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I hate it.

I distance myself from people who produce it, prolong it, and people who butt into it.

I see no pleasure in it, and I see no point to it.

Note that all things in my journal are my opinion, speak if you will, and I am always open enough to listen without prejudice as long as you speak calmly.

If I ever have a problem with what someone has done, I will talk to the person directly, that is my way. I keep it out of public eyes, because if it is out in the open, you never know when somebody is going to wade in with their tuppence worth, and in their misplaced zeal, inflame tensions beyond breaking point.

There are two types of people I refuse to read on my list, the first type is the one who will air a personal issue in a public community. If you have a grievance, put it in your own journal, rather than initiate drama in an inappropriate place. People who do that will be de-friended very damn quickly, because it is the action of a drama seeker.

The second type is the one who believes their way is the only way, and will use any tactics to get the world to follow. They are people who have their minds set, and despite being told they are wrong, with proof, will not admit their mistake. The Zealot too blinded and blinkered by their own belief that the come off as superior and feel it their right to point out any perceived failure in another.

I discovered both types today, and I bade them farewell.

I also defend those who are dearest to me, and while I don't choose between friends often, there are some times when I am offered a no-brainer of a decision and I take it.

And sometimes, you just have to say "Enough"

And yes, I am very hypocritical at times, all people are, to some extent. We have a heart and a mind, and sometimes, the choice you make with your heart is different from the choice you would have made with your mind...

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Date: 2005-12-15 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photodiva02.livejournal.com
Very well said. I don't like those types either. I had someone who basically told me how I was not over something, when I clearly am. Why is it that people want people not to get over things and do well? Hmmmmmm...

You're one of my favorite additions to my journal! :)

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Date: 2005-12-15 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Thank you :D

I'm very flattered that you think so...

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Date: 2005-12-15 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowshape.livejournal.com
ditto to drama!
love and blessed be
xxx

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Date: 2005-12-15 07:01 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2005-12-15 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandoralily.livejournal.com
we are allways at war with head v heart, and neither of them seem to make sense. that's why i listen to my spleen, he's a very witty fellow. :P

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Date: 2005-12-15 07:52 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2005-12-16 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aishaelderwyn.livejournal.com
And thus I walked away from the woman I call "My Evil Aunt." Although I would like to not have her as a relative. She is the one who creates Drama. You are welcome to fly to Australia and slap the crap out of her anytime you need to slap the crap out of someone. :)

I'm too kind, but it is the season to be jolly! *smiles oh so ho ho ho like, wait, sounds wrong...*

*muah*

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Date: 2005-12-16 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
LOL!

I would love to fly to Aussie :D

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Date: 2005-12-18 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugarpuss.livejournal.com
I am always open enough to listen without prejudice as long as you speak calmly.

This comment will be entirely calm. I would appreciate it if you showed me the courtesy of taking a few moments to read and reply to it; I do not find that to be much to ask at all.

First, I would like to explain to you why I made the post I made in [livejournal.com profile] onelinecreative. I did not do it to "seek drama", and while you are, as a human being, entitled to your opinions and judgments, assuming that was my MO was presumptuous and frankly entirely incorrect. I do not go around telling other people why they do what they do; it isn't my place. It isn't yours, either; I know why I do what I do, you know why you do what you do. If either of us want to know why the other one did something, we would have to ask that person, as that person is the only person who knows their own true motivations.

I was a member of OLC from the beginning or very close to it. I became a moderator shortly afterwards. I was later removed as a moderator because I was not around when I needed to be, due to several reasons, the largest being that my father is recovering from surgery to have a large cancerous tumor removed from his leg, and obviously family comes before anything on my computer. During that time I wasn't online much at all. While I concede that [livejournal.com profile] torisrabbit had every reason to remove me as a moderator due to the fact that I was not around, as a maintainer of a community, it is only proper to inform a moderator whom you have "hired" to perform a service that you plan to "fire" them; this is doubly true when, as in this case, said maintainer is someone you've been friends with for quite some time. Nikki did not do this.

I was a bit upset, but I voiced my concerns (in the community) to Nikki, and explained that my father's progress has since allowed me considerably more time to be online; easily enough time to post a simple line or word challenge once every other or every third week. She reinstated me as a moderator, setting the date for me to post a challenge as December 12th. I checked in with her at least once to make sure I knew the date.

Unfortunately, on that day, my cable modem decided randomly, as modems often do, not to work. Thus, not only could I not possibly post my challenge, but I had no way of letting Nikki know that I couldn't post it. This was completely beyond my control. I managed to get back online less than twelve hours past when I should have posted the challenge. For the second time, I came back to find that Nikki had "fired" me without any explanation or warning. As the maintainer and as a friend, it was her responsibility to take the few moments necessary to drop me either a comment or an email explaining this; she did not do so.

--cut for length--

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Date: 2005-12-18 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugarpuss.livejournal.com
This time I was considerably more upset. I wanted to explain this not only to Nikki and [livejournal.com profile] autumn_eyes, but I also wanted the entire community to know that I was leaving, why I was leaving, and give them the invitation to friend me and/or join a new community if and when I open one. It was posted in "the public eye" because I was addressing the public eye. People in a community have a right to voice things regarding that community within the community, as well as to give others in that community the chance to respond to that post if and how they saw fit. This was in no way wrong or out of line, and my post was in no way rude or untruthful.

Since then, these things have happened (though not necessarily in the exact order):

1. My post was deleted for being "off-topic", even though it's pretty hard to argue that a post in a community about that community is very on-topic. It was also suspiciously not deleted until after someone commented and agreed with me.
2. My post -- again, made by me, in a public forum, relating to that public forum and all of its members -- was replied to by [livejournal.com profile] neneithel (whom I had previously not known). She had every right to reply to a post that I made inviting replies in a forum made for people to make posts and for other people to comment on those posts. She agreed with me, as many people have since... probably because I was right.
3. [livejournal.com profile] neneithel then posted about this in her own personal journal and was subsequently banned from OLC. It is completely unfair for someone to be banned for A) posting in a public forum in a polite manner, B) agreeing with someone, and/or C) for posting anything at all in their own personal journal space.
4. [livejournal.com profile] autumn_eyes has claimed that I am going to "steal" her idea, and added a note to the userinfo saying that anyone wishing to make a similar community basically needs her permission. That is utter crap. First of all, it's an idea; it's not patented or copyrighted, and anyone can use it. Secondly, hundreds of similar communities are on LJ, practically all of which have been around longer than OLC; shouldn't the first person to start the first community be the one we'd need permission from (if they were preposterous enough to assume they were owed so much)? What about the first person who used a challenge like this outside of Livejournal -- perhaps some long-dead teacher who'd be happy to know their idea was still being used? [livejournal.com profile] autumn_eyes was not the first person to come up with this idea; no one needs her permission to use it, let alone when by agreeing to run a similar community she'd already given that permission.
5. [livejournal.com profile] torisrabbit and I, who have been long-time friends, have been fighting. She's torn because she knows the right thing is to reinstate me, but knows [livejournal.com profile] autumn_eyes wouldn't like it (even though it's not her community). She does, however, agree that it was wrong to de-mod me and that [livejournal.com profile] neneithel should not have been banned. Note that she, the owner of the community, did not delete my post, either.
6. I have lost you as a friend on LJ, which I have yet to understand.

I would very much appreciate if you could lend me the time to explain what I did wrong.

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Date: 2005-12-18 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I can't believe you are still harping on about this. I de-friended you because I didn't like the way you handled the situation, and I have enough troubles in my life to have to deal with public drama seeking.

I hope this is clear enough.

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