i think jail does nothing. i have seen it in so many cases. i have had friends who were on their second strike and still use. i am not sure what would help. i mean if you really truly want to rehabiltate yourself, then you would get off your ass and do it. i got clean and sober without any help. i think this involves any kind of rehabiltation..in my mind.
I do not believe that jail is a rehabilitative place. This is a LONG issue w/me, I will leave it at that cause I am still rather sleepy and can't think well, BUT i sure can talk about this one. HEE HEE *hugs*
Remind me after monday...getting ready last min preps for my cruise. But, I will leave you w/this... I am a firm believer of an eye for an eye. If it were up to me there would not be an abundance of prisons. *hugs*
It's called "Preventative Maintenance". If you know the punishment (you're gonna die) before you do the crime...
As for rehabilitating - why? It's costly and ineffective. Our jails and prisons are overcrowded as it is. We have people sitting on death row - who are getting COLLEGE DEGREES. WTF?!?
Since when did jail and prison become something OTHER than PUNISHMENT?!?
Jail and imprisonment are archaic, it should never have been about punishment... If we can't help people let go of the need to hate, or commit crime, we're pretty much stuck in the cycle of hurting each other forever.
Too many people in too small of a space. Doesn't look like it's gonna change any time too soon. (Not unless we have one kickass plague, cuz AIDS ain't doing it)
What you're talking about is science fiction. I wish you well on your endeavors to attempt to make the changes.
you kill someone, you die you rape someone, you get raped in the most painful way, and then we should probably kill you anyway, cause most of them are habitual you steal, we take everything from you, and make you get a really bad job, like mcdonald's fry cooker you do drugs, we send you to rehab, and if that doesn't work or you fail at rehabilitation habitually, we give you a lethal injection
instead of jails or institutions (not saying we don't need any, just less) we could use the money and resources pumped into giving these guys free room and board, and in some cases cable t.v. into more electronic monitoring and more probation officers (who have more authority to force you to stay in line) there's nothing wrong with a little police brutality in some cases. (i sound really harsh)
ive seen programs where inmates actually help train helping eye dogs. and the benifit with them is they can devote day and night to the dogs unlike most people leave them home alone for part of the time
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 08:51 am (UTC)what a great question.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 09:02 am (UTC)Yes, all jail does is put criminals together so that they can have even less positive influence that outside...
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 09:04 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 09:05 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 11:24 am (UTC)This is a LONG issue w/me, I will leave it at that cause
I am still rather sleepy and can't think well, BUT i sure
can talk about this one. HEE HEE
*hugs*
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 11:30 am (UTC)"The degree of civilization can be judged by its prisoners." ~ Dostoyevsky
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 11:42 am (UTC)last min preps for my cruise. But, I will
leave you w/this... I am a firm believer of
an eye for an eye. If it were up to me there
would not be an abundance of prisons.
*hugs*
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 11:45 am (UTC)Have a great time on your cruise! And we'll talk about it on Monday... :)
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 11:59 am (UTC)That is part of my EEEvil side.
Outta here, be good.
*hugs*
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Date: 2006-04-06 12:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 12:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 01:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 01:06 pm (UTC)As for rehabilitating - why? It's costly and ineffective. Our jails and prisons are overcrowded as it is. We have people sitting on death row - who are getting COLLEGE DEGREES. WTF?!?
Since when did jail and prison become something OTHER than PUNISHMENT?!?
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 01:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 01:17 pm (UTC)Too many people in too small of a space. Doesn't look like it's gonna change any time too soon. (Not unless we have one kickass plague, cuz AIDS ain't doing it)
What you're talking about is science fiction. I wish you well on your endeavors to attempt to make the changes.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 03:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 03:05 pm (UTC)you kill someone, you die
you rape someone, you get raped in the most painful way, and then we should probably kill you anyway, cause most of them are habitual
you steal, we take everything from you, and make you get a really bad job, like mcdonald's fry cooker
you do drugs, we send you to rehab, and if that doesn't work or you fail at rehabilitation habitually, we give you a lethal injection
honestly some people aren't worth saving.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 03:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 03:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 03:08 pm (UTC)instead of jails or institutions (not saying we don't need any, just less) we could use the money and resources pumped into giving these guys free room and board, and in some cases cable t.v. into more electronic monitoring and more probation officers (who have more authority to force you to stay in line) there's nothing wrong with a little police brutality in some cases. (i sound really harsh)
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 03:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 04:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 04:28 pm (UTC)Horses for courses...
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-09 08:35 pm (UTC)ive seen programs where inmates actually help train helping eye dogs. and the benifit with them is they can devote day and night to the dogs unlike most people leave them home alone for part of the time
(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 08:23 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 08:24 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 09:47 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-04-06 09:54 pm (UTC)