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What part of the beliefs you were taught do you question the most?

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Date: 2006-07-27 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] f-l-i-r-t.livejournal.com
Hmm... I don't really question many beliefs I was taught as they were not or religious origins and more just of a morality sort of stance. Be repsectful of others, be kind, be polite, I guess those are less beliefs and more, I don't know.

The only 'belief' if it is one, that I was taught that I have strayed from, or questions, or twisted to suit my life and my life experiences is the idea of monogamy.

I am sure this is not what you were asking or looking for, sorry for going a bit off topic. I am a bit scattered these days. I owe you a phone call, just been uber busy, ran out of time for everything, my apologies.

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Date: 2006-07-27 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Actually, it's fine :)

No need for apologies, we'll talk soon :D

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Date: 2006-07-27 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avis-noctis.livejournal.com
The belief that if one has no religion, one is clearly disfuctional or has a less happy life.

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Date: 2006-07-27 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
That is a very good question :)

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Date: 2006-07-27 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-rontor.livejournal.com
*Applaudes* Well written!

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Date: 2006-07-27 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilgeorgiawhore.livejournal.com
Excellent. This would have been my answer, but you expressed it much better than I would have :-)

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Date: 2006-07-27 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-nothingto835.livejournal.com
the bit where i go to hell for everything i've done from the age of 21 onwards.

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Date: 2006-07-27 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
LOL!

That's definitely good to question!

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Date: 2006-07-27 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-bard.livejournal.com
Every single one.

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Date: 2006-07-27 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Best thing to do, in my opinion :D

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Date: 2006-07-27 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosta-pasta.livejournal.com
I was raised in an ateist Soviet Union, and my father was ateist, but with every minute of my life I realise now that he was the most piouse person I knew. He stated the same - respect for others, help and support, being honest -so nothing would contradict with the Bible or Quran's commandments. Only when I grew up I started (and still do) discovering some aspects of different religions. The most incredible thing that I have found for myself is that none from World known (let's name them Guru), so none from real Guru have never ever written even a line about how to live - only their followers did - f.e. Bible was written by Apostles but not Jesus, Buddha haven't written a word for us, has Muhammed? I doubt it. I know, all of them were saint people, I have no doubt about that, as so many people still talk and belive in their powers, but I also don't take any word which is written in the books even religious, as I know that those books have been written by people, and it's normal for people to make mistakes, so they could easily deforme the meaning of what Jesus or Buddha or Muhammed or Lao-tzu were saying to the World. I have lots of questions, but I dont ask them anymore, as I hardly can find a person who would really explain me what those Seers were saying indeed. The most frequently asked question was how can God allow wars where innocent people live, or how come that one is born healthy and an another one blind or deaf,so where is the justice and the equility in the World and Bible sais we are equal?.. Now I don't ask them. Huh. I have written too much here. I am sorry:)
I just took two volumes of History of Religions:) Your question will make me start them today, I think:)

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Date: 2006-07-27 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
A good discussion indeed :)

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Date: 2006-07-27 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lipzofs0rr0w.livejournal.com
good question.

I would have to say that I always use to question why people didnt embrace those who didnt believe in christ. I always wondered why we labeled people and things secular, and made them sound so horrid and fearful.

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Date: 2006-07-27 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Yes, secular beliefs never make sense...

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Date: 2006-07-27 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-rontor.livejournal.com
All of it. The basic teachings for the average people are sound, but the holier than thou aspect should be exorcised like a cancer.

If I had to choose specifics, however, I'd say Extra ecclesiam nulla salis or outside the Church there is no salvation. Gandhi is simply not going to hell, and neither are the other good people who weren't Catholics. That's a doctrine written by men and not a deity.

Then there is Papal Infallibility, a doctrine penned in July 1870 stating that the Holy See is protected from errors when speaking officially on matters of faith or morals. Two words: 1) Crusades. 2) Inquisition.

I call bullshit. Furthermore, for its forethought and knowing executions of malicious lies and atrocities in God's name, I excommunicate the ecumenical part of Christianity from itself.

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Date: 2006-07-27 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Man, You're fairly passionate about this!

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Date: 2006-07-27 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosta-pasta.livejournal.com
:)))))))))))))))))))

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Date: 2006-07-27 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evergladesqueen.livejournal.com
i shall keep this one short.
EVERY SINGLE ONE.
*hugs*

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Date: 2006-07-27 06:08 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2006-07-27 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hypovex.livejournal.com
All of it. I firmly believe everything I was raised to believe is horseshit.

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Date: 2006-07-27 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Has that changed how you view the world?

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Date: 2006-07-27 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] childeofloki.livejournal.com
Was taught to, or learned to?

I was taught to question anything I don't understand.
I learned to question everything.

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Date: 2006-07-27 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crescent-fresh.livejournal.com
pretty much all of it, but mostly the existence of a just and loving god.

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Date: 2006-07-27 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] childeofloki.livejournal.com
I always say, "If you believe in one god, you open the possibilities of all gods."

If there is a divine seat out there, I wonder if he/she/it has anything to do with us?


(sorry to intrude, occupational hazard)

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Date: 2006-07-27 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnickcottage.livejournal.com
That anyone else on the planet actually follows the tenets of their faith/system, without setting it aside and/or modifying it every time it becomes inconvenient for them and their personal gratification.

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Date: 2006-07-28 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
There are very few who stick to evey aspect of their faith, I would say...

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Date: 2006-07-27 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kabandra.livejournal.com
The Christian part... I think Christians are so hypocrital. however, I do sorta believe in Jesus and love that part of the beliefs... sigh. You?

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Date: 2006-07-28 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I'm firmly in the "Question everyhing" camp :)

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Date: 2006-07-27 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalquessa.livejournal.com
I keep trying to think of something, and honestly...all the questions I can remember having (and there have been many) have been answered at some point or another. Huh. I'm only 24, so I assume that I'll stumble across a whole new set of quandaries to find answers for sometime soon, here...

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Date: 2006-07-28 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Barely out of diapers! :P

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Date: 2006-07-28 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandoralily.livejournal.com
that god is a rock that is without flaw.
what about noah? kill an entire world and then regret the decision. that has to be a flaw!

god has a plan was difficult too.

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Date: 2006-07-28 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Good questions...

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Date: 2006-07-28 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitywhisper.livejournal.com
Currently?

Divorce is sin. - it doesn't seem to take abuse into account.
Remarriage after divorce is a adultry - seems to really leave women in a horrible position, even now.
Neither seem to be very compassionate in unbearable cercumstances.

I can't reconsile this. . No matter how hard I try. . and the fact that human beings are so fallable. . .and the world is such a rough place, and the need to love and be loved is so important. . .nothing makes sense with this.

Except for one thing. . .but I won't go into that.

It seems that a blanket statement would cover all possibilities of missing something down the road.

That is the only thing that makes any sense to me right now.

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Date: 2006-07-29 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I never agreed with the Catholic Church about that...

It's the blanket statements from any faith that I find myself questioning first.

I thought the adultery aspect in Catholicism affected men too?

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