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Date: 2006-08-23 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Providing you're in an environment that encourages rather than punishes...

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Date: 2006-08-23 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-bard.livejournal.com
I disagree. The Dutch Libertines won their independence from Spain and the Holy Roman Empire. Hells, I could give a ton of examples in the context of history. I had to write papers on them.

"People should not be afraid of their governments, government's should be afraid of their people." "The people are above the king, not the king above the people." Philippe de Mornay was a French Huguenot in Catholic France when he wrote this. The Huguenots failed miserbly in France. But those words inspired Locke, who inspired Jefferson, who inspired the French later on to revolt... on and on. A perfect chain of events and the power of words.

If our environment doesn't encourage us, then it is up to encourage ourselves. That's the light of the human spirit. Sometimes it takes hundreds of years, sometimes it takes a single lifetime. The real question is: Is it worth it to you to resist, or is it worth it to consent? And that answer will change depending on the people, the environment, and the events. It also depends on whether there is someone strong enough to show the way and take the risks for standing up - including loss of personal freedom and potentially life.

One man/woman may inspire, but it takes a group to carry the weight of his arguments in order to make the changes.

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Date: 2006-08-23 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-bard.livejournal.com
P.S. Don't mind the typos... I'm speed typing amidst chaos! ^__^

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Date: 2006-08-23 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Half the time I don't even notice the typos!

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Date: 2006-08-23 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
:D

A quote from V just had to make it in there too :D

Very well put!

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Date: 2006-08-23 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-bard.livejournal.com
I had to read (and write about) de Mornay for my Reformations class last semester, and the chain of events he inspired, specifically the Libertines.

It was really awesome to watch V after having to do that in school. It made the movie that much more wonderful.

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Date: 2006-08-23 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I should really read up on all of that... :)

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