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Is it more important to work for the team, or for yourself?

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Date: 2006-08-24 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voldelange.livejournal.com
it depends who the team is...i don't like working in a team (i hate depending on others) when i do things by myself i know they get the way i want and if they are not great at least there's no one else to blame...but now i'm working with my brother and his mates and i do it with a lot of pleasure because i know they are good in what they do and with a team like this it's important to work for them so we all give our best and do something good,but mainly i like working for myself/by myself...

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Date: 2006-08-24 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-ravyn.livejournal.com
In a collaborative effort, where a common goal is to be reached, it's better to work for the team.  For a personal effort, to reach a personal goal, it's better to work for yourself.  Does that make sense?  Don't mind me, I haven't had my second cup of tea yet.

Good morning to you! :D

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Date: 2006-08-24 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artist-writer.livejournal.com
for the team

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Date: 2006-08-24 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosta-pasta.livejournal.com
didn't decide it myself, yet.

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Date: 2006-08-24 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warrior-olight.livejournal.com
I'll take one for the team provided she meets my standards. :)

Truly, it depends on what is at stake. Is this a business or personal project?

In the business arena one has to see the broad picture and compromise with various departments of the corporation or clientel. The needs of both must be met and can give rise to unique solutions but not very often.

Personal projects require you to focus on yourself and perhaps the needs of those around you. If it is a truly personal goal like weight loss or furthering knowledge or education then one should be more self-focused.

The somewhere in betweeners call for a blend of the two.

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Date: 2006-08-24 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dazzedelf.livejournal.com
where are you, can't find you online :(

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Date: 2006-08-24 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dazzedelf.livejournal.com
Depends on the project. if i need a team i want a team, if i don't then i don't.

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Date: 2006-08-24 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnickcottage.livejournal.com
I do my job to the best of my ability. Period. If that just happens to positively affect the "team", then more power to us. But I can't help gagging on the word team as used in the workplace. It's a bit like "associate", it's just another spew of propaganda created to manipulate workers into doing more than they're being paid for.

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Date: 2006-08-24 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atomb0mb.livejournal.com
Working for myself, is the best way to work for the team.

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Date: 2006-08-24 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warrior-olight.livejournal.com
Donn, I think he is in training all day although he should be home shortly.

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornjkitty.livejournal.com
I would say it depends on the team. (Is there a little bit of an echo in here?)

To be honest, I tend to do a little too much "for the team", but if I am gonna take a daily thwacking, I expect someone to jump in every now and again and take some thwackings for me, too. Otherwise I get a little pissy.

If you're willing to pull at least part of your weight, at least some of the time, I'm all for helping you out, but if you want me to do all your work, and then get pissy that I'm not doing it fast enough to suit you, I am gonna go off on your furry butt!

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crescent-fresh.livejournal.com
i gain pride in myself by achieving for the team.

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
If you can trust and depend on your team, it's great :)

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Good morning!

And it makes perfect sense... :D

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Do you like teamwork?

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
lol! Why not?

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosta-pasta.livejournal.com
it's (if to think deeply) a tough Q.

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] issabellablue.livejournal.com
I'm kinda anti-social feeling these days. My experiences with group dynamics in the church/workplace haven't been too pretty.
I guess I'm in a *refuses to participate* mode, preferring the integrity of one on one.
(errr, I guess two is a team?)



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Date: 2006-08-24 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dazzedelf.livejournal.com
Yep, sombody already let me know about the training and he imed me when he got hom. thank you though ;)

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
;)

You've been through some of this training :)

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Date: 2006-08-24 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
That works :)

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
In some cases, I agree, but I try to get my department to work together, and the best way to describe it is a team :)

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Get your parts of the machine's task done, and you've done your share, right? :D

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Now that's the way to be!

Do your bit, but don't do everyone elses!

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Ah, the team ethic!

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Two can be a team :D

One on one is a great way, but ultimately, if you don't trust your team, or the dynamic within them is wrong, the it won't work...

And now you know what I've been doing for the past three days!

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalquessa.livejournal.com
The team. When the zombies attack, you'll need them to get your back.

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanchey.livejournal.com
Welcome back!

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Then think! :)

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Definitely!

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Date: 2006-08-24 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Thanks! :)

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Date: 2006-08-24 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mighty-rontor.livejournal.com
That's sort of like "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

You have to work harder for yourself first. That's the foundation with which you build a team: similar goals. A team is nothing but individual selves that express the like of the same thing. Whoever said that there is no "I" in "team" was very wrong.

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Date: 2006-08-24 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Well said :)

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Date: 2006-08-24 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warrior-olight.livejournal.com
Who me? A scion of Corporate America? Never!
This county is so backwards that I know how to conduct an interview better than the managers giving them!

Hope you survived the day okay. *DING* More AOD postage is now available.

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Date: 2006-08-24 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warrior-olight.livejournal.com
Cool, better too many than too few.
(especially true about cookies)
::gobbles cookies::

You can have a couple though.

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Date: 2006-08-24 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warrior-olight.livejournal.com
Brains! Corporate Brains!

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Date: 2006-08-24 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
ahhh management game time lol

the objective(s) define the need or otherwise for a team. without knowing the objective(s) this can't be answered meaningfully.

is this chapter one? ;)))

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Date: 2006-08-24 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Naaah, I'm not that structured with game time :)

Although, we did have some fun with team member role definitions... :)

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Date: 2006-08-24 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
LMAO!

And off I go to read :D

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Date: 2006-08-24 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornjkitty.livejournal.com
Well, I will admit that I tend to be a little bit of a Cheez Whiz about this, but if I am already carrying all of your luggage (all six suitcase full of bricks!), I will get a little punchy if you bitch at me because you have to carry your own carry-on bag. ... And that tends to happen rather more often than I would like. ...

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Date: 2006-08-24 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ornjkitty.livejournal.com
Ugggghhhhhhh! You poor thing!!!!!!!!

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Date: 2006-08-25 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I agree!

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Date: 2006-08-25 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
It wasn't that bad :)

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Date: 2006-08-25 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artist-writer.livejournal.com
I've worked in so many team-situations where there have been one or more people only out for themselves and it made the rest of the team deteriorate. When all the members of the team worked "for" the team, the job went smoothly. In situations where the members were serving their own interests, I found myself wanting out quickly. Otherwise, yes, I do like teamwork. ::smiles::

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