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Which do you believe in more, Self or God?

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Date: 2006-10-16 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I think it's up to God, I'm not going to check, I respect God's privacy ;)

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Date: 2006-10-16 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
mmmmm..... it wouldn't be all those ladies on your flist influencing your decision? hehehehe

*smiling here* ;)


yeah i'm naughty but it's fun ;)

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Naaah...

To be perfectly honest, In the Koran, God is considered sexless, He is only called He because we live in a male dominated society... If it was a Matriarchy, God would be She... :)

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
it does leave open the question why the koran does not state that explicitly.... and equally why the bible and other relgious tomes don't either ......

written by men maybe ;)

think in a broader plane bro - it's a wonderful place ;)

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Funnily enough, the Koran never uses "He" for God... It's written as if God is narrating, so "I" or "We" is used...

As far as the others go, well, yes, they were written by men, hence the He :)

In the Koran, God is described as a pure being of light...

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
yes.... there is agreement in all that you say. how much of that is written or established by females?

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
None... :)

Unless there's some secret Amazonian book of God's ;)

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
and therein lays the word of 'God' ?

i cannot understand why texts clearly written by men can be used to determine that birth-cradle existence of at least 50% of world population... call me a simple soul on this if you wish ;)

see... i told you i was naughty ;)))

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
I don't think it's simple at all... Matter of fact, I tend to agree bro :D

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Date: 2006-10-16 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
it's no-where as simple as i stated - but - even a few direct statements show that women have received a raw deal in religion because of a few male dominated conclaves.

permit me to say that i beleive that the world would be a far richer place if the next pope is female. similarly, permit me to say that the world would be a far more stable place if the next Haj was led by a woman with support from female ayatollahs and imams....

and nope... there is no refuge for other religions (mainstream or otherwise) either ;)

i'm not looking to offend here - merely seeking to ask why women have been excluded from something that's pretty important to most of us for thousands of years.

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Date: 2006-10-16 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
Because until we have a matriarchy in every major country, not much is going to change...

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Date: 2006-10-16 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
do you really believe that? did your own family need a male majority before 'mom' was listened to?

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Date: 2006-10-16 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayoub.livejournal.com
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

No...

Look at it this way, all the current male world leaders had to listen to their mum's in their formative years, and has that made a difference?

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Date: 2006-10-16 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
in the case of hitler, stalin, mao etc i somehown doubt it lol

they are of course extremes... but the exception..... ? ;)

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Date: 2006-10-16 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-bull.livejournal.com
yes i believe there was more than one separated by time and ideology ;)

time to hit the sack ;)

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