that's a tricky one... it's very contextual and very personal... and I've seldom met 2 people with the same definiton of it...
but I'll give it a go.
Honor when it refers to a personality trait is maintaining your actions and your words to a high and positive moral level - based on what is 'right' rather than what is 'best for oneself.'
It extends to things like keeping one's word, behaving in a manner that doesn't bring disgrace to oneself or anyone else, and living up to one's moral obligations.
We can 'honor' someone else by holding them in high regard and celebrating them - but one can only dishonor oneself, in my book. (Although I know others who believe otherwise.)
Honor is about taking a right action even when to do so doesn't benefit oneself - or worse, costs one dearly - simply because it's the right thing to do.
Now please don't ask me about "right" because that's even trickier and more subjective.
Being true to yourself and what you do and say is always truth.
My father was very honorable. If he had any enemies, then I don't know who they are or were. He stood by his truth and a promise was a promise. You could count him in a heartbeat and he would give you the shirt off his back. Sounds cliche`, but that's my dad.
When I was a teenager, I had some overdue magazines from the library. I was going to drop them in the drop off and then pay the dues the next time I went into the library. He said you will not get away with paying later, you will pay them now. I had to take them in right then and there and pay the overdue fines on them, oh yeah, with dad right behind me!
He was hard on us in some ways, some ways very flexible, but when it came to truth and respect, you gave it regardless of whether it was given to you.
Lots of valuable lessons to pass on and use for myself ... :) I believe him to be an angel now. When Andrea was between 1 and 2 years old, I was putting her to bed. She saw an angel standing beside her and said it was grandpa .... smiles ... I still get tingles when I think of that moment.
Giving your hos at least a 40% cut of the scrilla y0!
heh, or "making good on your word" or "having the courage to own up to the truth".
I know this woman who had plans to head to portland with some friends one night. They were gonna pick her up from a party around midnight. By the time they got there, she drank herself inoperably stupid. They said "beh, fuck her" and left without her. Instead of owning up to it and saying "yeah, I drank too much, sue me" she accused someone at the party of dosing her (roofies). I know the people she partied with and they were all close friends of hers and she stabbed them in the back (not to mention accusing them of a crime in the process) because she made a drunk ass of herself and couldn't own up to it. To me, that's about the bottom of the barrel for dishonor.
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Date: 2006-12-16 11:25 am (UTC)Honor
Date: 2006-12-11 08:50 am (UTC)To me it means respect, integrity. To be in alignment with your agreements, to do as you say, is to bring honor to yourself and others.
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Date: 2006-12-16 11:27 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-12-11 09:35 am (UTC)but I'll give it a go.
Honor when it refers to a personality trait is maintaining your actions and your words to a high and positive moral level - based on what is 'right' rather than what is 'best for oneself.'
It extends to things like keeping one's word, behaving in a manner that doesn't bring disgrace to oneself or anyone else, and living up to one's moral obligations.
We can 'honor' someone else by holding them in high regard and celebrating them - but one can only dishonor oneself, in my book. (Although I know others who believe otherwise.)
Honor is about taking a right action even when to do so doesn't benefit oneself - or worse, costs one dearly - simply because it's the right thing to do.
Now please don't ask me about "right" because that's even trickier and more subjective.
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Date: 2006-12-16 11:28 am (UTC)And your answer is one that's given me some things to think about...
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Date: 2006-12-11 12:58 pm (UTC)As for "honour"... I don't have this. (At least not the way you've spelled it.)
Dictionary.com best defines "Honor" (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/honor) and what it means to me.
As for actually having it? Heh. I'm told I have no honor.
Stop looking at me like that. I never said I agreed with the accuser.
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Date: 2006-12-16 11:29 am (UTC)You have a great deal of honour...
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Date: 2006-12-11 04:11 pm (UTC)My father was very honorable. If he had any enemies, then I don't know who they are or were. He stood by his truth and a promise was a promise. You could count him in a heartbeat and he would give you the shirt off his back. Sounds cliche`, but that's my dad.
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Date: 2006-12-11 04:15 pm (UTC)When I was a teenager, I had some overdue magazines from the library. I was going to drop them in the drop off and then pay the dues the next time I went into the library. He said you will not get away with paying later, you will pay them now. I had to take them in right then and there and pay the overdue fines on them, oh yeah, with dad right behind me!
He was hard on us in some ways, some ways very flexible, but when it came to truth and respect, you gave it regardless of whether it was given to you.
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Date: 2006-12-12 10:09 pm (UTC)heh, or "making good on your word" or "having the courage to own up to the truth".
I know this woman who had plans to head to portland with some friends one night. They were gonna pick her up from a party around midnight. By the time they got there, she drank herself inoperably stupid. They said "beh, fuck her" and left without her. Instead of owning up to it and saying "yeah, I drank too much, sue me" she accused someone at the party of dosing her (roofies). I know the people she partied with and they were all close friends of hers and she stabbed them in the back (not to mention accusing them of a crime in the process) because she made a drunk ass of herself and couldn't own up to it. To me, that's about the bottom of the barrel for dishonor.
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Date: 2006-12-16 11:36 am (UTC)